The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
相对男主演们，更值得琢磨的周围其他女性面对这件事，尤其在第三篇章里，给到的反应，尚的母亲，伯爵的妻子，国王的妻子，一切女性都在承担这场悲剧，以及墙外女人们的欢呼，那不仅仅是个人的荣耀，尽管这场胜利并非全然代表正义，现代戏里没觉得亚当司机好看，这里面确实很有魅力，
老雷，我的《异形》前传3呢？大卫后来咋的了？
70/100 若不是雷导镜头下历史片的特有质感，罗生门式的N（N=3）段叙事很难看得下去，事情的原委在每段中纯粹是以单人客观的视角而存在，它忽视了讲述者的主观性，在呈现上仅是将故事以段落式的切割，如果主创的意图仅限于此，那完全没必要耗费如此冗长的篇幅。好在罗生门结束后的中世纪对决拍的足够有猛劲，大饱眼福。
罗生门？还是金刚川，不明白一个故事演三遍有啥好处，反正时长是翻了三倍
天呐，实在太过时了，不管是科幻概念还是镜头语言都应该是短片承载的量。APPLE+最近出品的片子或多或少都强调AI未来，这到底是何必呢
这其实是不是两个男人的战争，而是一个女人对抗整个世界，为了尊严，为了自我。
英雄气质和史诗向来由男性写就，道德同样也是。但这个电影说，最勇敢的或许不是可以选择“为荣誉而战”的人，而是几乎没有选择权、却能够在逼近的死亡面前站稳脚跟的人。
但火候问题没有起到强有力的沉浸按摩。
生命走到尽头，该怎么去和生活和亲人告别。女主弹钢琴唱歌那段很戳人。
似乎“不接种就不给绿码”的玄疑故事，此片以“尊严-名誉-虚荣”交织“knife-wife-life”，女的要“爱拼才会赢”，男的是“爱赢才会拼”，男的决斗赢了，最后只有往耶路撒冷拼去了……如此看来，还是《道士下山》里暗含的“接种”比较委曲（不是“委屈”）。
科技與人倫的壁壘遲早都會被打破，只是現在的我們都還是很難想像，出於為了不讓一個家庭受傷，而讓另一個自己介入，這樣到底是真還是假？是好還是壞？用「延續自我」的方式來讓一切如昨，這是否是我們另一種假意的溫柔？
作者避开了忒修斯之船问题的哲学探讨，
画面好美。
Men do hate rapists, they just dont consider themselves as rapists in most cases. 援引中世纪法国的真实案例，以探讨性同意议题上的两性多重视角，没谈出啥新意，拿去给直男当性观念教育片还可以的水平。Anyway，斯科特老爷子如此高龄愿意拍一部这样的片子，值得敬重与鼓励。（题外话 as a modern independent sexually-mature woman, who wouldn’t wanna have sex with Adam Driver???
一个没有人证物证，间接证据也没有的案件，在那个年代以骑士决斗的方式来平息，这相对于几百年后的今天同样案例会算进步还是退步？
p.s.我不理解，这片不配提名小金人吗？
剧情非常温吞，但可探讨的内容很多，比如哲学、伦理、室内装修风格……比如为啥选择克隆体的都是少数裔……比如他们签的是不是个承揽合同？定作人是否有权随时中止解除合同？定作人和承揽人对定作产品有什么权利和义务？定作产品是《民法典》上的主体还是客体？
扎扎实实的剧本和摄影，章节层层推进，在最后一刻大爆发，可怕的是施暴者在最后一刻仍没有任何悔意，其实我本以为达蒙会输，那样结局会更加荒诞悲凉，可是在人们簇拥着达蒙向前时，又是另一种说不清感觉的荒诞
一部好的电影就是随着情节的发展，观众在不知不觉间随着主人公流泪了，自然到无所感知。在电影的结尾，看着Cameron和儿子告别，看着妻子的深情表白，我跟着Cameron的哭泣而情不自禁的流泪。如果复制一个自己，可以减少自己离去而对家人造成的悲恸，你会愿意复制一个自己吗？有一处重要台词我认为翻译错误 Cameron对妻子内疚时说"I drifted." 应该是 我疏远你了的意思，翻译成“我出过轨。”实在是大错特错，出轨应该是 "I cheated." 这是个不应该的错误。
扎扎实实的剧本和摄影，章节层层推进，在最后一刻大爆发，可怕的是施暴者在最后一刻仍没有任何悔意，其实我本以为达蒙会输，那样结局会更加荒诞悲凉，可是在人们簇拥着达蒙向前时，又是另一种说不清感觉的荒诞
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